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Stagger
Dec 7, 2003 20:36:20 GMT -5
Post by Ron Coon on Dec 7, 2003 20:36:20 GMT -5
I know all set ups are different, especially with vintage cars, but, what kind of stagger is everyone runnin' on under 3/8, 3/8, and 1/2 mile tracks? My starting staggers are 5", 3", 2".
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Stagger
Dec 10, 2003 12:31:24 GMT -5
Post by camman on Dec 10, 2003 12:31:24 GMT -5
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- First, all race cars aren't created equal and for your application, you're not wrong. You have to remember though that you're basically running a sprint car. Your theory of going slow on a parade lap (like you said on the CamCoupe board) is a new one to me though. I've never heard of it before. It kind of reminds me of the old guys telling me they could taste the dirt and know how to get around the corners. In my racing career, I've given them ample opportunity to test that theory if they could stay close enough behind me to taste the dirt my rear tires were kicking back at them. ;D We've all heard of the 'dixie cup' theory and it works well in some applications and suspensions, but not in fast momentum cars like the CamCoupes. Basically, with the stock suspension on the Cam cars, all that stagger isn't needed. The proof is in the pudding. In Webster City, the OUTLAW VICKI had 1/2" stagger on a flat track. With segment timing, we were faster than a lot of the classes through the corners. There are a lot of variables in this theory. Cross weight, castor camber, rear weight percentage, tire air pressure, springs and shocks. If all of these are right, the car will tell you it's right in the amount of tire pressure gained. Again, in Webster City, I gained equally 2# all the way around the car. Therefor, the car told me what it liked. Heat is air pressure. formula = weight divided by air pressure = sq. in. contact patch. If the car didn't like the amount of stagger, we would have had significant heat and pressure buildup in the right rear. In your defense, this does not work for all driving styles. If you're one of those guys that like to throw the car into the corner and get it crossed up, it won't work. But, if your goal is to get around the corner as fast as you can, this works every time in a CamCoupe. With the advances in scaling equipment and new set-up tools, it allows our momentum cars with small engines to outrun more powerful cars with different set-ups, I.E. Stagger. So, if you can convince me to put bigger tires on the right rear and make it faster, I will. But, you have to prove it to me. In looking at the other posts on this subject on the CamCoupes board and I must not be the only one thinking this way. HAVE A GOOD DAY RON!!!!
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Stagger
Apr 25, 2004 22:17:35 GMT -5
Post by 41buick on Apr 25, 2004 22:17:35 GMT -5
what is a good starting point for the castor camber,howe upper a's wide five spindle's and wubs. 2800 pound car, for dirt.Thanks for any help.
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